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Dr.
WETH TELESTIGMAR
Ihagee Dresden. Exacta camera 24x36 mm Nr 617695 with mounted Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3,5/4 cm C Nr 209-1282 and original Exakta bellows,
Dr. Weth
Prime element
RARE
Dr. WETH
TELESTIGMAR MULTI FOCAL LENGTH LENS
We are pleased to show an original Dr. Weth Telestigmar lens set. The focal lengths are variable
depending on which elements are assembled for use.
The focal lengths are:
175mm f3.5;
250mm f5.0;
225mm f4.5;
315mm f6.3.
Items provided in this lot:
(See pictures at: “Camera-tube-lens combining diagram” and “Parts Identifier Picture”)
Main lens tube with focusing mount and 1/4-20
tripod socket.
Original lens hood.
Supplimentary
optics, which mount inside the lens barrel; these are marked: P, N. Spacer tube
Z.
Extension tube.
Orange filter, slips inside lens mount.
Custom made lens mounts, Exakta
bayonet, Alpa, and Canon FD.
Original lens case.
Extra filter mounting ring, rear caps for Exakta and Canon mounts.
There is one extra cap, but it doesn’t fit
the Alpa bayonet mount.
Serial number 1910
From the information we received, the original owner purchased the lens
directly from Dr. Weth in 1956 or 1957. In addition,
the Exakta and Alpa mounts
were provided at different times to the owner by Dr. Weth.
We are fortunate to have a comprehensive article which was written about this
very lens by Professor Peter Dechert, who was able to
examine it, and also communicate with the owner about the unusual history of
the optic.
We quote here from the article with the author’s permission.
From the article by Peter Dechert:
The Weth Telestigmar is not
so much a lens as it is an optical array. In today's world its function is
filled by any number of telephoto zooms, some of which take up even less space
and certainly can be used with less fuss.
On the other hand, the zooms are heavier and usually have a dozen or more
elements, inevitably reducing available contrast on the film; Dr. Weth's lens, mostly filled with air (again, like the early Leicas), never has more than four glasses and six
glass-to-air surfaces unless, of course, you employ it in conjunction with an
accessory extender from a later era...
How, you may well ask, can a lens "never have more than four"
elements? Surely it has a fixed number. This was the trick, the secret, the
"magic" of the Telestigmar. For Dr. Weth's pride and joy was a prime lens supplied with two
accessory rear elements and a spacer which, used in various combinations,
provided four different focal lengths in the range between 175mm and 315mm...
The basic lens is around 9 inches in length, including an adapter. The hood
adds another 3 inches. Actual length will depend on which elements are used.
The lens is quite light, since there are few elements and lots of air inside.
Again the basic lens weighs about 1 lb 2 ounces.
Some explanation is needed for the photos which we have provided here.
The first picture shows the basic lens,
without a mount in place.
Second the parts in the case. The case was
original, and supplied by Dr. Weth. The sides have
fallen off, but it could be restored by a competent leather worker.
Third shot shows the cover of the case
closed.
Fourth is a flat view of the parts, the
elements, mounts, tubes and caps which are included
The fifth photo shows the lens with hood and
mount.
The sixth view shows another view of the lens
barrel with emphasis on the tripod mount.
The first picture shows the basic lens, without a
mount in place. /Second the parts in the case. The case was original, and
supplied by Dr. Weth. The sides have fallen off, but
it could be restored by a competent leather worker.
Third shot
shows the cover of the case closed.
Fourth is a flat view of the parts,
the elements, mounts, tubes and caps which are included
The fifth photo shows the lens with hood and mount. /
The sixth view shows another view of the lens barrel with emphasis on the
tripod mount. -The “H” part.
The Magical Optic of Dr. Weth
Copyright 1992 by Peter Dechert
Santa Fe, NM 87504-0636
used with permission
The decade of
the 1950s was a watershed for miniature camera optical design. In the beginning
we 35mm users had rangefinder cameras and single focal length lenses in sturdy
brass mounts. By 1960 we had SLRs, mirror optics, and
our earliest tele-extenders and zoom lenses.
If you examine some of the advertising literature for the
period you will find all sorts of optical gadgetry, some announced prematurely
and never indeed actually marketed, some introduced with much fanfare and still
recognizable as precursors of today's more dependable products, and not a few
that came and have now long gone without much fanfare or subsequent influence.
Dr. Weth's Telestigmar lens
fell into that final class.
Dr. Weth, a retired engineer,
lived in
The Weth Telestigmar
is not so much a lens as it is an optical array. In today's world its function
is filled by any number of telephoto zooms, some of which take up even less
space and certainly can be used with less fuss. On the other hand, the zooms
are heavier and usually have a dozen or more elements, inevitably reducing
available contrast on the film; Dr. Weth's lens, mostly
filled with air (again, like the early Leicas), never
has more than four glasses and six glass-to-air surfacesпїЅunless, of course, you employ it in
conjunction with an accessory extender from a later era.
How, you may well ask, can a lens "never have more than
four" elements? Surely it has a fixed number.
This was the trick, the secret, the "magic" of the
Telestigmar. For Dr. Weth's
pride and joy was a prime lens supplied with two accessory rear elements and a
spacer which, used in various combinations, provided four different focal
lengths in the range between 175mm and 315mm. To a considerable extent it did
what zoom lenses now do, but it did so earlier and certainly more capably than
the still-camera zoom lenses that came along during the next ten years after
the Telestigmar was marketed.
The four major parts of this lens were the basic prime lens,
diaphragm, and focusing assembly; tube "N" (so designated because it
is a negative supplementary lens); tube "P" (as you can now guess, a
positive supplementary); and "Z" (the spacer tube). An extra
unlabeled spacer tube was designed in order to make photographs at close range;
this tube has unique qualities to which we shall return later. An adapter was
also required to attach the optical assembly to the camera in use; the original
design appears to have been intended for use on an Edixa
Reflex, a Contax D, or a Praktica,
since the first apparent adapter incorporated the thread mount that had been
introduced on the Contax S in 1948 and later became
known as the "Pentax" mount, or more
recently still the "Universal Thread Mount." The Telestigmar
itself was first marketed about 1955.
For an historical overview, I am greatly indebted to the
original owner of the Telestigmar shown in the illustrations,
Allen C. Swarts of
Shortly thereafter, a new Telestigmar
arrived in Augsberg, together with a really superb Exakta adapter that also featured a drop-in slot for a
filter slightly larger than a standard Series VI, though Series VI filters
could be used in an emergency. This particular lens must have been intended all
along for export to the
In 1972 the purchaser, now using an Alpa,
again found himself in
Dr. Weth also told Mr. Swarts that he had at some previous time recomputed the Telestigmar optics for additional sharpness when used on a
cine camera system; clearly, doing this would have made it less useful on the
full double frame 35mm size, but by then zoom lenses for 35mm cameras were generally
available and easier to use than Dr. Weth's design.
So far as I can determine, Telestigmar production,
which surely was never large, must have ended for good at about this time, and
quite possibly even earlier since Dr. Weth himself
was probably in the neighborhood of eighty years old by then.
So much for the sketchy history; let us look at the Telestigmar itself. It was supplied disassembled in a
nicely plush-lined brown leather case with a strap and storage compartments for
the large main component, the individual supplementary tubes, and a camera
adapter. A deep crackle-finished lens hood was designed to screw onto the front
57mm thread of the main tube, facing either forward for use or backward for
storage; the unusual 57mm threading makes mounting filters a nuisance today.
The prime lens tube looks more or less like any standard
accessory lens. It has a presetting ring immediately in front of the aperture
ring; clickstops are provided on the presetting ring
at about each half F-stop. The focusing ring, mounted toward the rear, has
metal knurling and a double helix so that the front of the lens does not rotate
during focusing. At the very rear is a more or less standard rotating tripod
mount which can be locked by a secondary ring; when I first looked at the lens
these two parts (which can be totally unscrewed from the lens tube) had been
assembled improperly: the locking ring belongs at the very back, and is
relieved in order to allow the auxiliary tubes to fit fully into the main tube.
The maker's designation is marked just in front of the focusing ring and the
The most interesting aspect of the main tube is the scale
engraved between the maker's logo and the aperture setting ring. This is a very
concise set of instructions, combined with an aperture series for each
available focal length; because the lengths vary while the front element
diameter is constant, the Telestigmar's aperture is
not constant throughout its range of applications. The left end of the scale
designates the possible operative combinations, while the right end is simply
an extension of marked F-stops for each. The combinations and their maximum
apertures are marked as follows:
N + Z -> F = 315 : 6.3
Z -> F = 250 : 5
N + P -> F = 225 : 4.5
P -> F = 175 : 3.5
Camera-tube-lens combining diagram
Nomenclature:
H= Main lens
250mm with focus and diaphragm |
N= Negative lens
element – main focal lens extender |
P= Positive lens
element –main focal lens contractor |
Z= Hollow tube 1
–focus arrangement corrector |
R= Hollow tube 2
–close focusing extender |
Parts Identifier Picture
Thus the lens can be used as a preset, clickstopped
175mm f/3.5, a 225mm f/4.5, a 250mm f/5.0, or a 315mm f/6.3, depending on the
combination of supplementary tubes that are added to the main tube. At first it
looks as if the main tube should be known as "F" (and I still find
myself so calling it), but in fact the "F" is simply an abbreviation
for "[resultant] Focal Length." It might be called "H".
The tube attachment system is interesting in that it is an
interrupted thread. This method was used on a few cameras in the period
1940-1960; it is a fully threaded mount into each part of which grooves have
been cut, removing the threads from half the original fore-and-aft threading
area. It combines the advantageous multiple engagements of a threaded mount
with the speed of a bayonet: the male half-threaded unit is socketed
into the female one, and a short turn locks them together. The Ilford Witness camera used this system with a standard Leica thread, three cut-outs, and a locking device;
unfortunately, there are no locks on the Telestigmar.
And, because Dr. Weth settled for
two 90 degree threaded sections fitting into two 90 degree cutouts, it is
possible during hurried assembly to cross the threads; again, as was the case
with the Alpa mount, the lens will then sit askew
relative to its rear tubing. Also, the tubes can come apart during focusing
(especially now that the original lubricating grease has stiffened), or while
an attempt is being made to affix another tube to a three, four, five, or even
six part combination (including the camera mount, extension tube, and the lens
hood). Thus the two-section interrupted thread made for extra speed in use, but
at the expense of some rigidity in action as well as the very real possibility
of improper alignment of the film with the optical elements.
These criticisms aside, the threading was done rather
cleverly, in a combination of two slightly different diameters and coordinated
male-female relationships, so that it is impossible to assemble any combination
in incorrect order. Experiment quickly confirms that the named tubes must
indeed be added in the order given on the chart.
The only two glass elements in the main tube comprise an
apparently cemented doublet entirely contained within the foremost ring of the
assembly, well forward of the diaphragm. This is the same general construction
used by Leitz in the 400mm and 560mm f/6.8 Telyts, and at reasonable lens speeds makes an entirely
adequate long-focus design: in the case of the Telestigmar,
as the chart above shows, it produces a 250mm f/5.0 in combination with the
empty "Z" tube, whose length is about 33mm.
To achieve 315mm you place the "N" tube between
the main unit and the "Z" tube. The camera mount goes onto the back
of the "Z" tube. So far as I can tell from examination, the
negative-strength "N" tube contains a single glass element; since it
is negative, however, and far removed from the front cell when mounted, it
makes the 315mm combination a three-element true telephoto design.
As we just saw, the 250mm combination uses only the basic
main component, and is therefore a simple two-element objective that recalls
the Leitz Telyt lenses
mentioned above. Like the negative "N" tube, the positive
"P" tube also appears to contain a single element; when combined with
the main unit it results in a long-focus three-element 175mm of no clear basic
typology.
The 225mm combination of "N" plus "P"
plus main unit does not really have enough negative power at the back to be
classified a telephoto; it, too is simply a long-focus objective, in this case
of four elements configured rather like some old Rapid Rectilinear lenses. The
original owner of the Weth lens that I haveexamined recalls that in a magazine article written
about 1956 this 225mm combination was considered the "sharpest," but
I suspect that such a conclusion may well have been based largely on the fact
that it had one more optical element than any other possible combination of
tubes.
The smallest marked aperture for the 315mm focal length is
f/45; f/22 is the smallest available at the 175mm setting; and f/32 closes out
both the 225mm and 250mm sequences. The focusing ring has no scale, partly
because the different focal lengths would need different intermediate distance
scalar values. In addition, however, the infinity focus location is not even
nearly the same at all focal lengths. Groundglass
reflex focusing is absolutely necessary in order to use this optic.
The unmarked extension tube, which is not included in the
engraved chart, can be inserted either between the camera mount and the rearmost
optical tube, or between the main lens tube and the first additional tube. With
the two other adapters, however, only the latter positioning is possible. This
choice gave the user some interesting, albeit probably unintentional,
variations of coverage in the close-up range, since placing the extension tube
in its foremost possible position increases the scale of reproduction when, for
example, the "N" tube follows it instead of preceding it.
With the other two adapters, using the extension tube always
changes both the effective focal length and the effective f-stop, a situation
that must have caused some unexpected results, especially in the days before
internal exposure metering was common. Because the 315mm combination does not
focus very close by itself, the extension tube is almost a standard accessory
for it, and this is truer yet with the 175mm configuration: even with the
extension tube added, the 175mm Telestigmar assembly
focuses no closer than about seven feet, and the double-male threading of the
"Z" tube prohibits its use as an additional extension. The largest
object image size on film, roughly a 6:1 minification,
is achieved with the extension tube on the 225mm and 250mm assemblies.
Since both "N" and "Z" read the same
upside-down as rightside-up, assembling the desired
combination in a hurry is not always quick and easy for a photographer in the
field. Had Dr. Weth seen fit to put positioning
arrows or dots on the auxiliary components of his Telestigmar
system, he would have helped both contemporaneous users and distant posterity
like me.
It's quite easy to see why the Dr. Weth
Telestigmar must have been done in, at least for
casual users, by the first half-decent zoom that came along and included the Telestigmar's range of focal lengths. We have seen that
exchanging the Telestigmar's tubes can something of a
nuisance even if you correctly identify fore and aft and manage not to skew any
joints; twirling a ring or push-pulling a slider is a much easier way to
manipulate image size and apparent foreground-background perspective
relationships. Further, on 35mm reflex screens of the 1950s and 1960s, the
image, especially at smaller apertures with this non-automatic lens, would
often have been very difficult to judge; the linkage necessary to change the
total of the four Weth lens configurations, plus the
extension tube, over to even semi-automatic diaphragm operation with any one
camera model, much less a succession of them, would have been lacy at best.
Nowadays, however, screens are much brighter than they were
then. Anyway, by now you all know me! Maybe there really were additional
advantages to the Weth configuration, apart from its
light weight and very few contrast-diminishing glass-to-air surfaces. Having
the instrument in my grasp, I had to clean it up (no mean task, alas) and find
out. Surely Bob Shell would have agreed were he not two thousand miles away,
and maybe also even those of you who have already reached this far into the Dr.
Weth story. Thus I removed the mounting ring from the
1972 Alpa adapter and put it into the outer shell of
a Canon FD T-mount; I could just as well have used the original Pentax or Exakta Weth adapter with the proper Canon mount converter at the
back, had I had the latter readily at hand. Then I put the various combinations
onto my Canon T90 and tried them.
Simply viewfinding, they looked
surprisingly good. Examining results on film, I was even more favorablyimpressed. This is not a very high-speed unit (multiplit?), but it is a very sharp one for its day, and
surprisingly so even now. If the lens had been available to me in 1956, I would
surely have tried working with it as an alternative to my much heavier and only
marginally faster 150mm and 300mm Kilfitts.
*******
If on your photographic travels you should see a bearded
elderly gent cussing in temporary frustration at the complexities of assembling
the right configuration of a multi-part telephoto lens, don't hesitate to call
out "Hey, Peter!" After all: who else could it possibly be?
Copyright пїЅ 1992 by Peter Dechert
Santa Fe, NM 87504-0636